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 Helegrod Raid Sat 10/25 (24 person raid)

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Class: Hunter
Level:
Helegrod Raid Sat 10/25 (24 person raid) Left_bar_bleue50/50Helegrod Raid Sat 10/25 (24 person raid) Empty_bar_bleue  (50/50)
Rift Gear:
Helegrod Raid Sat 10/25 (24 person raid) Left_bar_bleue4/6Helegrod Raid Sat 10/25 (24 person raid) Empty_bar_bleue  (4/6)

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PostSubject: Helegrod Raid Sat 10/25 (24 person raid)   Helegrod Raid Sat 10/25 (24 person raid) EmptySun Oct 19, 2008 5:37 pm

Helegrod Raid Sat 10/25 (24 person raid)
Assembly Time: 4:00 PM PST / 7:00 PM EST
Assemble Area: Rivendell / Glorfindel

Reply below to sign up. Remember to include character name and class.
Send a tell to Varathir/Stalkaris/Kavalir to let me know you've arrived.
In the event I'm not yet online, contact Jassy/Kadee or Bushido to let them know you've arrived.

Useful Information:

Level / Name* / Species / Dread / Morale / Best Damage Vs.**
53 / Coldbear / Bear / 0 / 147,552 / Fire
51 / Adhargal / Man / 0 / 134,500 / non-common
51 / Ansach / Man / 0 / 134,500 / non-common
51 / Breosal / Man / 0 / 134,500 / non-common
51 / Grisgart / Man / 0 / 134,500 / non-common
53 / Storvagun / Giant-kind / 7 / 215,000 / Tactical
52 / Zaudru / Spiders and Insects / 6 / 140,000 / Beleriand
54 / Drugoth / Ancient Evil / 7 / 147,500 / Beleriand
54 / Thorog / Dragon-kind / 10 / 310,500 / Ancient Dwarf***

* All listed are Arch-nemesis class.
** Best damage types to use vs. various bosses are my recommendations based on species. If a LM could scan each boss (or if someone has a link to specific vulnerabilities/resists) I will update the information accordingly.
*** Though all sources seem to list Thorog as Dragon-kind, as he's also undead I would also bring Westernese.

Helpful Helegrod Links:
Helegrod Guide
Thorog Fight Guide (updated since Bk11 changes) Edit: Use the link for reference, but refer to Harp's post below for the Thorog fight.

In the near future I will compiled the above information to store in the Strategy/Tactics Forum.


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LOTRO Stats
Class: Guardian
Level:
Helegrod Raid Sat 10/25 (24 person raid) Left_bar_bleue50/50Helegrod Raid Sat 10/25 (24 person raid) Empty_bar_bleue  (50/50)
Rift Gear:
Helegrod Raid Sat 10/25 (24 person raid) Left_bar_bleue1/6Helegrod Raid Sat 10/25 (24 person raid) Empty_bar_bleue  (1/6)

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PostSubject: Re: Helegrod Raid Sat 10/25 (24 person raid)   Helegrod Raid Sat 10/25 (24 person raid) EmptySun Oct 19, 2008 6:56 pm

ill go again on saturday -Bob guardian Basketball
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Class: Captain
Level:
Helegrod Raid Sat 10/25 (24 person raid) Left_bar_bleue50/50Helegrod Raid Sat 10/25 (24 person raid) Empty_bar_bleue  (50/50)
Rift Gear:
Helegrod Raid Sat 10/25 (24 person raid) Left_bar_bleue6/6Helegrod Raid Sat 10/25 (24 person raid) Empty_bar_bleue  (6/6)

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PostSubject: Re: Helegrod Raid Sat 10/25 (24 person raid)   Helegrod Raid Sat 10/25 (24 person raid) EmptyMon Oct 20, 2008 2:58 pm

lets continue the fun !! cheers
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PostSubject: I'm in   Helegrod Raid Sat 10/25 (24 person raid) EmptyMon Oct 20, 2008 4:16 pm

Bushido - Champion - I'm in.

This will be the night that the dragon falls!
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Class: Lore-master
Level:
Helegrod Raid Sat 10/25 (24 person raid) Left_bar_bleue50/50Helegrod Raid Sat 10/25 (24 person raid) Empty_bar_bleue  (50/50)
Rift Gear:
Helegrod Raid Sat 10/25 (24 person raid) Left_bar_bleue6/6Helegrod Raid Sat 10/25 (24 person raid) Empty_bar_bleue  (6/6)

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PostSubject: Re: Helegrod Raid Sat 10/25 (24 person raid)   Helegrod Raid Sat 10/25 (24 person raid) EmptyMon Oct 20, 2008 4:28 pm

I'm not available on Friday night but I can join on Saturday night with Jimeson (LM). I'd enjoy another shot at Thorog as he kicked our asses the 2 times I've been along to try him. Hope we can get enough to try him.
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PostSubject: Re: Helegrod Raid Sat 10/25 (24 person raid)   Helegrod Raid Sat 10/25 (24 person raid) EmptyMon Oct 20, 2008 5:06 pm

Harp, Minstrel. I'm in.

I don't think the strategy thread you posted is the most reliable way to down Thorog. So, for what it's worth, here's the strategy that's worked for me. Feel free to ignore if you really want to try it the other way. Very Happy

In my experience: the fewer folks you have who are on or near the main platform and can get the Eye, the less likely it is your raid will wipe to the Eye. High Fear resist chance does help prevent the Eye so it pays to have folks with high Fear resist in the main platform group. If you can avoid wiping to the Eye, it's basically just a really long tank-n-spank... with the "spank" coming mostly from hunter DPS.

IMO this fight is actually simpler than Thaurlach with this strategy... except that you need 18 people really on their game vs 9 with the Balrog. This is a 9 dread fight, so chain hope is very helpful.

Here's a map I drew that shows the positions of the four groups:

Helegrod Raid Sat 10/25 (24 person raid) Thorog6lz6

I really like pulling Drugoth up to the perch. His long, slow walk back to his crypt gives everyone plenty of time to pop hope and eat. The MT group can jump down from the perch and walk (or hobble) to the main platform with plenty of time to spare.

MT Support group: Guardian, Captain, Captain, Minstrel, Minstrel, Loremaster
All of Thorog's non-Eye attacks on the MT group can be healed through. One captain keeps Muster Courage up continuously for the +20% fear resist and the other hits his when someone gets the Eye. Almost always, a fear pot + Muster Courage clears the Eye, but the player with the eye should run for quarantine while eating the pot and waiting for Muster Courage, just to be sure. Getting out of LoS of Thorog always clears the eye within 3 seconds.

Adds group: Champ, Grd, Mns, LM, (flexible x2)
One or two champs from this group can be a floaters down on the platform DPSing/clobbering Thorog. The MT group minstrels can keep the champs healed, but they will need to manage their own fear effects with pots/runs to the quarantine spot. The Adds group guardian's job is to scoop up every add that tries to get to the hunters. LM can mez/root spiders as needed, and Wind-lore + Raven-ranged-debuff the drakes to coax them to come up to the perch. LMs feed power to the hunters as they can. The burglars from the Interrupt group provide the DPS to down the adds.

Ranged DPS group: Hunter x5, (flexible x1)
Two hunters with good graphics cards and max draw distance are responsible for tagging the adds before they head to the MT group (they don't DPS the adds, just tag them so they try to come up to the hunters perch). All hunters DPS Thorog as much as possible while he's on the platform. When he flies up to heal, hunters can assist clearing the adds. It's rare, but Hunters (or anyone else on the very edge of the perch) can get the Eye - just run up to the healing platform or drop behind the E stairs to break LoS.

Interrupt group: Burglar x3, Hunter x2, (flexible x1)
Burglars must land a named conjunction on Thorog to prevent him from healing to full. "All yellows!" does the trick. Burglars must plan primary and secondary FM starters for each time Thorog flies up. All other burgs debuff Thorog on incoming to improve the chances of the FM landing. When Thorog is down on the main platform, burglars watch for the Eye on the MT group and assist in killing adds. The hunters in this group act as if they are part of the Ranged DPS group - see above.
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PostSubject: Re: Helegrod Raid Sat 10/25 (24 person raid)   Helegrod Raid Sat 10/25 (24 person raid) EmptyMon Oct 20, 2008 5:14 pm

I'll bring Egelwolf (chn) for Thorog.
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PostSubject: Re: Helegrod Raid Sat 10/25 (24 person raid)   Helegrod Raid Sat 10/25 (24 person raid) EmptyMon Oct 20, 2008 5:33 pm

as with friday, i'm in for saturday also.
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PostSubject: Re: Helegrod Raid Sat 10/25 (24 person raid)   Helegrod Raid Sat 10/25 (24 person raid) EmptyMon Oct 20, 2008 6:20 pm

I'm there...
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PostSubject: :)   Helegrod Raid Sat 10/25 (24 person raid) EmptyMon Oct 20, 2008 11:44 pm

I'm in for Saturday too
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PostSubject: Re: Helegrod Raid Sat 10/25 (24 person raid)   Helegrod Raid Sat 10/25 (24 person raid) EmptyTue Oct 21, 2008 7:29 am

Supe 50 Guardian please
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PostSubject: Re: Helegrod Raid Sat 10/25 (24 person raid)   Helegrod Raid Sat 10/25 (24 person raid) EmptyFri Oct 24, 2008 11:39 pm

I am most definitely in.
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PostSubject: Re: Helegrod Raid Sat 10/25 (24 person raid)   Helegrod Raid Sat 10/25 (24 person raid) EmptySat Oct 25, 2008 6:35 am

just want to let u guys know, i may not be there tonight for the raid. it turns out that headache i had last night was a harbinger of worse things to come. i feel like some one pooped me in a plastic bag and threw me against a screen door. it's all gonna depend upon how i feel later this evening.
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LOTRO Stats
Class: Captain
Level:
Helegrod Raid Sat 10/25 (24 person raid) Left_bar_bleue60/60Helegrod Raid Sat 10/25 (24 person raid) Empty_bar_bleue  (60/60)
Rift Gear:
Helegrod Raid Sat 10/25 (24 person raid) Left_bar_bleue5/6Helegrod Raid Sat 10/25 (24 person raid) Empty_bar_bleue  (5/6)

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PostSubject: Re: Helegrod Raid Sat 10/25 (24 person raid)   Helegrod Raid Sat 10/25 (24 person raid) EmptySat Oct 25, 2008 11:31 am

Hey everyone,

I would like to go again tonight but I am sober cab sometime between 10-11pm central time. It would be a last minute deal for me based on what time we end up starting but ill be in and ready to go otherwise.
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LOTRO Stats
Class: Hunter
Level:
Helegrod Raid Sat 10/25 (24 person raid) Left_bar_bleue50/50Helegrod Raid Sat 10/25 (24 person raid) Empty_bar_bleue  (50/50)
Rift Gear:
Helegrod Raid Sat 10/25 (24 person raid) Left_bar_bleue4/6Helegrod Raid Sat 10/25 (24 person raid) Empty_bar_bleue  (4/6)

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PostSubject: Dracocide   Helegrod Raid Sat 10/25 (24 person raid) EmptyMon Oct 27, 2008 10:55 am

Thorog the dragon lays slain, his treasure hoard plundered, and his skull taken as a trophy.

Awesome work everyone! Special thanks to Harp for her wicked strats.

Congratulations Dragonslayers!
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